No Marine recruiters  allowed?

Beverly Congdon poses a con argument to Katy Rossi's editorial entitled "No Military recruiting on campus."

Con: It makes me sick
Beverly Congdon | 2/11/08 | Opinion
Before writing this editorial, I sat before my computer for nearly 15 minutes, not knowing what to say—speechless of the subject which I had to write.  It wasn’t easy to believe that such foul behavior existed within the boundaries of this free country.

Berkeley is the home of the famously liberal university that was once a center of protests against the Vietnam War.  Today they are taking a step further.  Protesting against the war is not enough anymore.  Nope, now they are actually trying to kick all Marine recruiters out of the city. 

Some protesters held up signs reading, “Join the Marines. Travel to exotic lands, meet exciting unusual people, AND KILL THEM,” while one giant sign read, "No Military Predators in our town."

The leaders of the protest are members of Code Pink Women for Peace.  One member named Sharon Adams justified the protests, saying, “This Marine recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn’t take care of them.  That’s a shame.”

Okay Sharon, if you’re so worried about the treatment of our veterans, you need to encourage a legislative act you deem suitable for their treatment, instead of calling all the soldiers predators and murders and running them out of your city.  The excuse that you’re doing such protests FOR the soldiers is ridiculous!  How can you say you want better treatment for the Marine veterans while accusing all soldiers of being murderous villains?  Your argument contradicts your actions.  Now either Sharon is just really stupid, or really cruel.    

Can’t everyone see through the excuse that the protests are in the soldier’s name?   I really hope no one reading this is ignorant and hateful enough to even attempt to justify the protestors’ actions.  I am so appalled by such malice that I do not know a word that exists to describe the protesters or their actions.

Needless to say, the U.S. Marines (as well as the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air force and the U.S. National Guard), place themselves in extreme danger everyday to protect and preserve the liberties and rights of all American citizens. They voluntarily leave the comfort of their home to face the possibility of being tortured and killed.  The Berkeley displays would not be possible if it weren’t for their sacrifices.

The Third Amendment to the United States Constitution clearly prohibits, in peacetime, the quartering of military personnel in private homes without the owner's consent.

The Third Amendment clearly does not justify the heinous actions of these loony Berkeley residents. The Marines are not terrorizing residents by demanding to reside in their homes. Instead they legally hold stations at which people can voluntarily go to. No one is forced to meet with a military recruiter. We should trust 18 year olds (as well as older adults) with their own decisions. The military recruiters provide more information, allowing people to make a more informed decision. They provide an opportunity for those brave enough to join. They aren't terrorizing or deceiving adults into thinking the military is a fantasy ride.

Sure, one can justify such lowly actions of the protestors by bringing up our “Freedom of Speech.”  But wait, how do we even have such a right?  Oh yeah, because throughout time the U.S. MILITARY has died for YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK FREELY.  And now you’re going to tell them they aren’t welcome?

While one can attempt to justify their actions’ based on the First Amendment, NO ONE, not any politician, has the legal grounds to exile military recruiters from a city.  It was, after all, the Berkeley City Council that ignited such displays of stupidity and horridness.  It was they that approved a measure last week, pushing for the Marine recruiters to leave their downtown office.

"If recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders," the item says.

It goes on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley."

These politicians don’t deserve their citizenship.  They deserve to be exiled out of this country to one that will show them how lucky they once were to live under the protection of the Marines.

One protestor by the name of Zanne Joi admitted that, “This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war.”

If you’re against the war, then protest against the war.  Don’t protest against the military officials who are there for others who wish to fight in the name of their country.  Don’t protest against the self-sacrificing persons who allow us to remain a free nation.

Now I’m not against those who protest against the war itself.  Although I may try to argue against the foundation of their argument, I have no opposition to such acts of freedom of speech.  But passing measures to kick the Marines out of the city??? No, that is impossible of deserving anyone with half a brain’s support.  

The worst of it all is that the protestors and politicians would probably beg the military to defend their city if it underwent an attack.  If such an attack were to happen, I would be tempted to tell them “Hey, you’re on your own now.  You said you didn’t want the military in this town, didn’t you?  Now suffer the consequences.” But most unfortunately, the military would probably never refuse to defend such hypocrites. 

I don’t know how the Berkeley politicians and protestors can go to bed at night, let alone go throughout the day with this huge weight on their conscience.  Hmm, maybe they don’t have a conscience.  That seems more possible to me than that these idiots are truly responsible for their actions.  But I have to leave La-La Land for now and come to terms with the fact that such people actually do exist. 

In Washington, a group of Republican lawmakers have introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008 to withdraw more than two million dollars of funds for Berkeley and transfer it to the Marine Corps.  I fully support the act named after the marine motto.

"Like most Americans, I really get disturbed when taxpayer money goes to institutions which proceed to take votes, make policy or make statements that really denigrate the military," said Sen. David Vitter, R-Louisiana, a co-sponsor of the bill.

Don’t you too? The Berkeley protestors and politicians are the real predators.  Don’t let their malicious, atrocious actions continue.  

Support our troops and show the real predators that they can’t get away with it.  Support the Semper Fi Act or support another measure to show these Berkeley politicians and protestors, and any others, that their actions will not go without consequences, and that all military offices deserve the right to recruit. 

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Name: Beverly Congdon
Date & Time: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:34 pm
Subject: Con: It makes me sick

Dear Caitlin,

I never said I think that anyone who thinks differently than I is "cruel, ignorant, or hateful." Rather, I said anyone (meaning American residents) who is in support of banishing the U.S. military recruiters from their city, or tries to justify it, is cruel, ignorant, and hateful.

I'm not sure if you thoroughly read my editorial, but the Berkeley protesters are not protesting the military to go off the college campuses, they are protesting to banish them from the whole city! They want the Marines downtown office to disappear. This is more than an issue of campus recruiting.

I also realize they are doing this because they're against the war. In response to that excuse I wrote in my piece:
"One protestor by the name of Zanne Joi admitted that, “This is part of a multi-pronged effort to end this war.”

If you’re against the war, then protest against the war. Don’t protest against the military officials who are there for others who wish to fight in the name of their country. Don’t protest against the self-sacrificing persons who allow us to remain a free nation.

Now, I’m not against those who protest against the war itself. Although I may try to argue against the foundation of their argument, I have no opposition to such acts of freedom of speech.

Why is it that the Marines would not have the right amount of armor protection? Oh yeah. Because Congressional Democrats wish to cut back funding for the war. And as to the excuse that it’s for the better treatment of soldiers, I also said in response: "One member named Sharon Adams justified the protests, saying, “This Marine recruiting station recruits people to go fight and then once they fight and they serve their country, our country doesn’t take care of them. That’s a shame.”

Okay Sharon, if you’re so worried about the treatment of our veterans, you need to encourage a legislative act you deem suitable for their treatment instead of calling all the soldiers predators and murders and running them out of your city. The excuse that you’re doing such protests FOR the soldiers is ridiculous! How can you say you want better treatment for the Marine veterans while accusing all soldiers of being murderous villains? Your argument contradicts your actions."

Besides, joining the military is a life-changing decision that no one should make carelessly. I don’t believe anyone has been deceived into joining the military--I mean, it is what it is. Do you think the recruiters are lying to adults, do you think they are deceiving them into thinking that joining the military has no risks and will be a fun adventure? I do not. To think the recruiters could even get away with that, let alone have people believe it, is plain silly. The public is well aware that the military has many dangers. Don't you think our media has already tried scaring them about the Middle East enough?

I trust adults with their own decisions and I don't think we should make out the recruiters as bad guys for providing more information about the opportunity to serve their American country. Adults can decide on their own, and just because there are others against the war, doesn't mean they have the right to try to prevent someone from making decisions about their own life.

P.S. Tell your brother we would LOVE it if he would write some editorials, or maybe you can!

Name: Caitlin Jetter
Date & Time: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 02:12 pm
Subject: Con: It makes me sick

I would like to comment on Beverly's article:

But I have to warn that my opinion is slightly against Bev's. If thinking differently makes me a cruel, ignorant, hateful person, then I'll just have to deal with it.

First of all, I don't completely support what these Berkeley protestors are doing, but they do have a point. Before I get into that though, I would like to say that they are protesting more than just troops coming on campus, most likely. Overall, they are protesting against the war, the people in charge continuing this terrible war, the bad treatment of the troops in the war, and the false advertising of the war. I doubt these protestors would be around if they supported the war because troops were treated properly and we were fighting for a better reason.

I do agree that the army provides many good non-combat opportunities, but I'm going to focus on the Marines. Troops are walking around campuses not telling the truth about what they are getting into when joining the Marines. They aren't saying that Marines sometimes don't have the right amount of armor protection, they are being sent to Iraq for 3 or more sessions, and they are not properly being taken care after ending their duty in the war. If they told people this, I wouldn’t mind them on campus (but obviously they won’t say this because that's not how you get people to join).

I do believe people who fight for our country are to be proud of and respected. I just don’t think these courageous people should have to fight in such a terrible and unjust war. I believe that the protestors aren’t against supporting our fighting troops; they are against the war our troops have to fight in and are being sold to young adults.

Name: Julie Waller
Date & Time: Thursday, February 14, 2008 07:07 pm
Subject: Con: It makes me sick

Ms. Congdon speaks for all Americans who appreciate and understand that freedom isn't free. At this time in history, when we are an all volunteer army, young men and women should be applauded, not discouraged, from making the choice to defend their country. Beverly really made a convincing argument that was based on more than just emotion. She made many great points as well as using just plain common sense. I am so proud that there are such passionate, wise, and talented young people ready to be the future of our country. Julie Waller

Name: Paul De Boor
Date & Time: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:23 pm
Subject: Con: It makes me sick
Yeah, this makes me feel good inside. It's not often someone who defends the troops gets it right. We don't need people speaking out for us. We have a voice and we know how to use it. If [there] is an issue, we know how to take care of it.
And yes, we would defend the hypocrites of Berkeley just like we would defend the rest of the U.S.
 

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